Songwriting Advice
How to Write Post-Hardcore Songs
You want songs that hit like a truck but have the heart of a diary entry. Post hardcore lives in that space where raw emotion meets technical teeth. It is loud when it needs to be and quiet enough to make the loud parts mean something. This guide gives you riffs, rhythms, vocal tricks, lyric tools, arrangement plans, and studio cheats so you can write songs that wreck rooms and still make people cry in the shower.
Quick Links to Useful Sections
- What Is Post Hardcore
- Why Post Hardcore Works Emotionally
- Core Elements to Nail
- Gear and Setup That Matter
- Essential guitar and bass setup
- Drums and percussion
- Vocals and effects
- Writing Riffs That Hook
- Riff recipe
- When to use dissonance
- Rhythm, Tempo, and The Breakdown
- Tempo and BPM
- Breakdown construction
- Vocals That Balance Clean and Harsh
- Writing vocal parts
- Technique and safety
- Lyrics That Land Like a Punch
- Lyric strategy
- Song Structures That Work
- Structure A: Intro → Verse → Chorus → Verse → Chorus → Breakdown → Chorus → Outro
- Structure B: Intro Riff → Verse → Pre chorus → Chorus → Bridge → Breakdown → Final Chorus
- Structure C: Through composed
- Arrangement and Dynamics
- Production Tips for Post Hardcore
- Recording guitars
- Mixing drums and bass
- Vocals in the mix
- DIY Songwriting Process for Bands
- Practical Writing Exercises
- One Riff Three Moods
- Half Time Swap
- Vocal Call and Response
- Common Mistakes and How to Fix Them
- How To Finish Songs Faster
- Showcase: Before and After Lyric Lines
- Performance Tips for the Stage
- Promotion and Release Tips
- Action Plan You Can Use Today
- Post Hardcore Songwriting FAQ
Everything here is written for millennial and Gen Z musicians who prefer truth with a side of sarcasm. You will get clear definitions for the jargon, real life scenarios that feel like your life, practical exercises to finish songs, and production notes that do not require selling a kidney.
What Is Post Hardcore
Post hardcore is a rock genre that grew out of hardcore punk. It keeps the intensity and urgency of punk but opens the music to more melody, varied dynamics, and experimental textures. Think angsty sincerity with smarter arrangements. Bands in this world trade the three chord sprint for jagged time shifts, emotional vocal interplay, and riffs that feel both melodic and bruising.
Quick glossary
- Hardcore refers to hardcore punk. It is fast, aggressive, and often short in duration.
- Post hardcore is the next stage where musicians keep the feeling of hardcore and add melodic elements, tempo shifts, progressive song structures, and dynamic contrast.
- Clean vocals means singing without harshness and usually with melody.
- Harsh vocals includes screams, growls, and other distorted vocal techniques.
- Breakdown is a slower, rhythmically heavy part of a song meant to emphasize groove and often invite crowd interaction during live shows.
- BPM stands for beats per minute. It measures tempo. A fast punk song might be 180 BPM. A breakdown can be 90 BPM or feel half time relative to the BPM.
- DAW stands for digital audio workstation. It is software you use to record and produce music like Logic, Pro Tools, Ableton, or Reaper.
Why Post Hardcore Works Emotionally
Post hardcore works because it allows contrast. The quiet parts make the loud parts devastating. A whispered line feels like a confession. A shouted chorus sounds like a truth declared with teeth. This genre invites complexity. You can be vulnerable and violent in the same song. That is a superpower when used honestly.
Real life scenario
You are in a van that smells like old sweat and energy drink. You write a verse about being tired and small. The chorus erupts into rage about not being seen. The room goes quiet during the next verse because everyone recognizes both parts in themselves. That is the post hardcore ticket to connection.
Core Elements to Nail
- Contrast between soft and loud, melody and noise, clean voice and scream.
- Riffs that sing even when they are heavy. A great riff is a melodic idea dressed in aggression.
- Rhythmic creativity using syncopation, tempo changes, and half time feels to create impact.
- Lyrics with specificity that avoid vague posturing. Bring objects, times, and small scenes.
- Arrangement that reads like a story where each section shifts the emotional landscape.
Gear and Setup That Matter
You do not need boutique gear to write great songs. You need clarity. Here is a practical list that covers rehearsal room truth and studio reality.
Essential guitar and bass setup
- Two guitars if possible. One for heavy rhythm and one for melodic lead or textural parts. If you have one guitar, use different tunings or alternate between clean and distorted sounds.
- Use a guitar amp or amp simulator with a tight low end and clear mids. Post hardcore requires definition so the guitars do not turn into mashed potatoes.
- Drop tunings or half steps down can add heft. Drop D and drop C tuning are common. Drop D means the low E string is tuned down to D. That gives easier power chord shapes and a heavier bottom.
- Bass should be punchy and locked to the kick drum. Use compression to keep the low end consistent during breakdowns.
Drums and percussion
- Kick and snare clarity matters. A tight snare with some snap cuts through heavy guitars.
- Use tom fills judiciously. Toms can punctuate transitions and add weight to breakdowns.
- Consider electronic percussion or samples to layer with acoustic drums for modern texture.
Vocals and effects
- Two-mic approach for clean and harsh takes. That lets you pick the best emotion later in the DAW.
- Use reverb and delay carefully. Dry vocals in verses can increase intimacy. A wider wet chorus makes the band sound huge.
- Safety note on scream technique. Use proper vocal training. Bad technique equals lost voice and tour cancellations.
Writing Riffs That Hook
Riffs in post hardcore should be memorable and functional. They must carry melody, rhythm, and attitude. You want riffs that a listener can hum months later while regretting decisions made at 3 a.m.
Riff recipe
- Find a short melodic cell. This is a small sequence of notes that sounds like a phrase.
- Test it with different rhythms. Move the same notes into different time placements to see what grooves.
- Add a rhythmic signature. A muted chug, a syncopated palm mute, or a staccato accent can make a riff unique.
- Layer a higher guitar line with harmonics, slides, or simple single note melody to create ear candy.
Example riff idea
Start with power chords in drop D. Play a palm muted pattern on the root then release into a higher ringing interval on the third string. Repeat and vary the rhythm in the second bar. Add a two note lead lick that answers the riff like a question and response.
When to use dissonance
Dissonance is your friend when used for tension. Use minor seconds, tritones, or suspended chords before a chorus. Then resolve to a more consonant chord when the chorus hits. The listener feels relief. That emotional payoff is what makes post hardcore songs satisfying and not just loud noise.
Rhythm, Tempo, and The Breakdown
Rhythm is where post hardcore lives. A breakdown can change the energy of a whole set. Timing and tempo control the crowd and the song.
Tempo and BPM
Pick a BPM that serves the emotional content. Fast BPM like 170 to 200 suits manic sections. Mid range 120 to 140 allows for headbang grooves. Breakdowns often use half time feel. Half time means you keep the same BPM on the metronome but play the snare on beats three instead of two and four. That makes everything feel slower and heavier without changing the actual BPM.
Real life scenario
You write a verse at 180 BPM that sounds urgent. The chorus is melodic and needs room to breathe so you treat the chorus like 90 BPM in feel by using half time. The result is a chorus that lands like a punch even though the metronome has not moved.
Breakdown construction
Breakdowns must be intentional. They are not just loud slow parts. Think of a breakdown as a concentrated emotional pivot where the band invites the listener to physically respond.
- Start with a clear rhythmic motif. Keep it simple. Two or four bar loops work.
- Use dynamics. Remove elements then reintroduce them for maximum impact. Silence before the first hit is priceless.
- Consider syncopation and accents. Those moments give the crowd places to move or shout.
- Add a short melodic phrase or chant that the audience can repeat. Simple call and response works well.
Vocals That Balance Clean and Harsh
Vocal interplay is a hallmark of the best post hardcore. The push and pull between a melodic clean voice and an aggressive harsh voice can carry the song emotionally.
Writing vocal parts
- Decide the role of each voice. Is the clean voice narrating while the harsh voice reacts? Or do they take turns leading the story?
- Use clean vocals for the hook to increase singalong potential. Use harsh vocals to punctuate pain or anger.
- Write simple, repeatable melodies for choruses so crowds can sing them after one listen. Keep verses more conversational.
Technique and safety
Harsh vocals require technique. If you do not have training, avoid pushing until you do. Practice with a coach, learn breath control, use proper placement, and warm up. Injured vocals are not edgy. They are expensive therapy sessions.
Lyrics That Land Like a Punch
Lyrics in post hardcore must be specific and honest. This is not the place for vague melodrama. The aim is to be raw and articulate at the same time.
Lyric strategy
- Start with the emotional truth. Write one sentence that states the feeling you want the listener to experience.
- Pick three concrete details that illustrate that feeling. Objects and moments matter. They are the shortcut to empathy.
- Write a chorus line in plain speech that is easy to chant. Repeat it. Let it be angry, wounded, or resolved.
- Let verses provide scenes that complicate the chorus. Each verse should add a new piece of information or perspective.
Examples
Poor: I am so broken and I hate everything.
Better: Your voicemail still says hey at noon. I replay it to remember the way you hung up on me.
The better line gives a place and an object. It allows the listener to visualize and feel the sting without being told directly how to feel.
Song Structures That Work
Post hardcore songs can be traditional or adventurous. Here are practical structures you can steal that keep momentum and allow for contrasts.
Structure A: Intro → Verse → Chorus → Verse → Chorus → Breakdown → Chorus → Outro
A reliable map. The breakdown sits later to reshape the live energy and the final chorus can be layered with harmonies and gang vocals.
Structure B: Intro Riff → Verse → Pre chorus → Chorus → Bridge → Breakdown → Final Chorus
Use a pre chorus to build tension and give the chorus a bigger landing. A bridge can provide a different melody, often more reflective, before the breakdown destroys it all.
Structure C: Through composed
No repeated choruses. Each section moves the narrative forward. This is riskier but can be powerful if your song is more like a journey than a chant.
Arrangement and Dynamics
Arrangement is the art of turning riffs into a ride. Keep dynamics at the center of your choices.
- Use quiet guitar with reverb and light bass in verses to create intimacy. Let drums play lightly. Make vocals up close and dry.
- Open the chorus with full band, wider guitar tone, and more vocal doubling. Add harmonies sparingly to heighten emotion.
- Keep breakdowns tight and drum forward. Drop instruments to make hits heavier.
- Use transitions. A simple drum fill, a tom roll, or a single cymbal swell can hold the listener as the band changes mood.
Production Tips for Post Hardcore
You can make a heavy record on a budget. Focus on clarity and impact.
Recording guitars
- Double or triple track rhythm guitars. Pan left and right to create width. Keep one track dead center for low end if needed.
- Use a direct in line for reamping later. That saves time and money in case you need a different amp tone in mixing.
- High end should not be brittle. Use gentle EQ to tame harsh frequencies around 2 to 4 kilohertz if things get nasty.
Mixing drums and bass
- Choose a kick sample that complements the beater of your actual kick drum. Layer carefully and cut frequencies so the kick and bass do not fight.
- Compress bass to keep low end even through breakdowns. Sidechain the bass subtly to the kick to give transient clarity.
- Use parallel compression on drums. Blend a heavily compressed duplicate with the dry kit for punch without killing dynamics.
Vocals in the mix
- Keep clean vocals upfront. Use light plate reverb and a slap delay in the chorus to make them soar.
- For harsh vocals, compression and saturation can add grit. Avoid too much reverb on screams because it blurs impact.
- Layer harmonies or gang vocals on the last chorus for catharsis.
DIY Songwriting Process for Bands
Writing post hardcore songs is a team sport. Here is a rehearsal room to studio workflow that helps you finish songs.
- Riff jam. Spend 20 to 40 minutes jamming one riff. Record it. Mark timestamps of interesting moments.
- Structure sketch. Listen back and sketch a form. Where does the riff want to repeat? Where should the break breath happen?
- Lyric seed. The vocalist writes one emotional sentence and three concrete images. Fit them into verse and chorus spaces.
- Demo. Record a rough demo in the rehearsal space with phone or simple interface. This captures the vibe and keeps you honest.
- Refine. Work on transitions, tighten the riff, and arrange the dynamics until the band can play the song without thinking.
- Record proper demo. Go into the studio or home setup and record a cleaner version. Use it for mixing and for sharing with labels, promoters, and friends who will pretend to be impartial.
Practical Writing Exercises
One Riff Three Moods
Write one guitar riff and play it in three different moods. Heavy, melancholic, and aggressive. Change dynamics, tempo, and vocal approach for each. Document which mood felt the most honest and expand that version into a full song.
Half Time Swap
Take a verse and play it at full speed. Then write a chorus that feels like the verse in half time. Experiment with drum placement and bass. You will learn how small changes create big impact.
Vocal Call and Response
Write a short melodic line for clean vocals. Write a short harsh vocal response as punctuation. Repeat and develop. This trains you to make the voices converse rather than shout over one another.
Common Mistakes and How to Fix Them
- Too much noise. If listeners cannot hear the chorus under the guitar wall, remove or EQ frequencies that mask vocals. Space is a weapon.
- Breakdowns that feel random. Make sure breakdowns answer something the song already setup. If it does not tie to the lyrical or melodic content, rethink or place it differently.
- Vague lyrics. Replace general statements with a small scene or object. Specificity creates emotional truth.
- Unfocused arrangements. If the song wanders, map it on one page and mark the emotional objective for each part.
- Poor vocal technique. Train properly. Save screaming for moments that mean it. A safe voice is a long lasting voice.
How To Finish Songs Faster
- Set a timer for each stage. Riff generation 30 minutes. Structure sketch 20 minutes. Lyric seed 15 minutes.
- Use a demo as the version to ship to bandmates. Do not chase perfection in the rehearsal room.
- Pick one person to make final calls. Bands die in committee. Delegate decisions and move fast.
Showcase: Before and After Lyric Lines
Theme: Feeling invisible in a loud world.
Before: I am invisible and no one sees me.
After: The bar glass remembers the shape of my hand. They say my name wrong every night.
Theme: Betrayal and anger.
Before: You betrayed me and I am angry.
After: You left your jacket on the floor like a map to the garbage you keep.
Performance Tips for the Stage
- Run the dynamics live. Practice the quiet spots at volume levels that still allow singers to be delicate.
- Teach the crowd one line. If everyone can shout one phrase at the chorus you will feel it in your rib cage.
- Leave space for chaos. A gap before the first breakdown hit increases anticipation. It works every time.
Promotion and Release Tips
Post hardcore audiences are loyal. Build connection before release. Tease a rehearsal clip, a raw demo take, or a short story about the song. Authenticity beats polish on social platforms most times.
Action Plan You Can Use Today
- Pick one riff and record a 60 second loop. Name it. Save it.
- Decide the emotional center in one sentence. Make it honest and slightly embarrassing.
- Map a simple structure with a chorus that repeats the core sentence or a paraphrase of it.
- Write one verse with two concrete images and a time crumb. Keep the chorus short and chantable.
- Practice the song in rehearsal. Record a rough demo. Play it for three close fans. Ask them which line they remember most. Keep the part that sticks and fix the rest.
Post Hardcore Songwriting FAQ
What is the difference between hardcore and post hardcore
Hardcore is raw, fast punk with a focus on speed and aggression. Post hardcore uses the emotional core of hardcore but expands arrangements, adds melody, and experiments with dynamics and time signatures. It is less about a single blast and more about an emotional arc.
How do I write a good breakdown
Start with a strong rhythmic idea. Create tension by removing elements then drop them back in for hits. Use half time feel to make the part feel heavy. Add a chantable line or simple melodic motif for audience participation.
Can one person write post hardcore alone
Yes. Many songwriters sketch full songs alone. You still benefit from band input for arrangement and dynamics. If you write alone, demo everything and be open to changes once you bring it to rehearsal.
Do I need advanced music theory
No. Basic knowledge of scales, intervals, and rhythm is enough for most songs. Focus on ear training and developing a sense of tension and release. Theory helps but feeling guides the best decisions.
How should I record screams without ruining my voice
Warm up, use proper technique, and work with a vocal coach if possible. Record in short takes and rest between takes. Use compression and saturation in the DAW to make screams sound larger without pushing your throat into unsafe ranges.
How important are lyrics compared to riffs
Both matter. Some fans come for riffs and stay for lyrics that cut. The best songs balance both. Prioritize clarity in the chorus and specificity in verses so both elements reinforce the song s heart.
What tunings work best for post hardcore
Drop D and drop C are common because they allow heavy open string riffs and power chord shapes. Standard tuning works too if you prefer brightness. Choose the tuning that fits the vocalist s range and the song s mood.
How do I make my songs stand out
Be specific. Use a single unusual image or a unique rhythmic twist. Add one signature sound that marks the song. The rest can be classic structure. Standout details create memorability.
What is a good production budget to sound credible
You can make credible recordings on a modest budget if you focus on performance and arrangement. A few hundred dollars for a good engineer or better microphones helps. Most of the impact comes from playing tight and capturing dynamic contrast.