Songwriting Advice
Using A Lawyer Recommended By The Label Or Manager - Traps & Scams Every Musician Must Avoid
You want representation that defends your money, your rights, and your sanity. You also get a text from your manager that says we have a lawyer who will move fast and make this contract disappear. That sentence can be comforting. It can also be a fast track to giving away royalties while you accept a lifetime of awkward phone calls. This guide explains the most common traps when labels or managers recommend lawyers. You will learn how to spot conflicts, what questions to ask, why you need independent counsel, and how to fix mistakes if you already signed something dumb at 2 a.m.
Quick Links to Useful Sections
- Why managers and labels recommend lawyers in the first place
- Real life scenarios that will make you squint
- Scenario 1: The speed trap
- Scenario 2: The friendly fee split
- Scenario 3: Joint representation that bites
- Key terms explained in plain language
- Red flags to watch for when a label or manager recommends a lawyer
- How to vet a lawyer your manager or label suggests
- Step 1 Ask for the lawyer s name and firm immediately
- Step 2 Check bar status and disciplinary history
- Step 3 Ask about conflicts and representation history
- Step 4 Ask for references and sample contracts
- Step 5 Ask for a written fee agreement and a scope statement
- Step 6 Ask to interview the lawyer for 20 minutes
- Questions to ask the lawyer on a first call
- What good independent counsel looks like
- Common contract traps and how to fight back
- Trap: Assigning all future songs for no clear pay
- Trap: Work for hire plain language
- Trap: Broad audit limits
- Trap: Vagueness about publishing splits
- Trap: Broad visual and branding assignments
- Trap: Automatic renewals and long terms with no reversion
- What to do if you already signed with recommended counsel and regret it
- Scripts and lines to use when you do not want the recommended lawyer
- How much should a music lawyer cost and how to pay less without selling your soul
- Audit rights explained with an example
- Why you need to know the difference between counsel and counsel
- Signing with eyes open is empowerment not paranoia
- Checklist you can copy and paste before any signing
- FAQ
Everything here is written for musicians who want to stay loud and solvent. Expect real life checklists, scripts you can copy and send, definitions for every legal acronym so you are never faking it, and stories that show how these scams actually land. We are equal parts savage and practical. You will leave ready to handle a recommended lawyer like a pro.
Why managers and labels recommend lawyers in the first place
There are three honest reasons a manager or label recommends a lawyer.
- They know someone who specializes in music deals and who closes quickly.
- They want the paperwork to reflect a business relationship faster than you can say streaming split.
- They have a preferred counsel relationship where the lawyer sends them referrals or discounts in exchange for frequent work.
The last reason is the one you must watch. It creates incentives that are not aligned with your interests. In legal terms, a conflict of interest occurs when the lawyer has a duty to more than one party and those duties pull in different directions. Conflicts can be explicit. They can also hide behind phrases like we use our usual counsel or this is the lawyer who always works with us. That language should make you ask questions before you sign anything.
Real life scenarios that will make you squint
Scenario 1: The speed trap
Your manager texts at noon. The label lawyer can approve the agreement today if you sign now. You get an email with a contract that moves rights and money. The lawyer says this is standard. You sign because you do not want to slow the deal. Two months later you realize you gave away publishing for three albums for a nominal advance. That speed was not a favor. It was leverage.
Scenario 2: The friendly fee split
A lawyer recommended by your label charges you a low flat fee for review. Later you learn the label gives the lawyer bonuses or sends them most contracts. The lawyer is grateful. Gratitude can bias advice. It can shift a review from independent analysis to a stamp of approval for the label position. You may get comfort but not protection.
Scenario 3: Joint representation that bites
The lawyer says they represent both the label and you to avoid extra cost. That sounds efficient. It is not the same as independent counsel. When representation is joint, the lawyer cannot secretly favor one side. The lawyer also cannot fully advocate for both clients when interests diverge. If royalty audits, creative rights, or termination rights become contested, the lawyer will be limited in what they can do for you. You will need another lawyer anyway. The cheap route becomes the expensive route in reverse.
Key terms explained in plain language
Understanding the words is your first defense. Here are the terms you will see and what they actually mean.
- NDA means nondisclosure agreement. It is a promise to keep certain information private. If a lawyer asks you to sign an NDA before they will speak to you about a deal, read it. NDAs are common. They can also be used to silence you about bad deals.
- LOI means letter of intent. It is a non binding summary of the main deal points. It can be a good way to get clarity early. It can also be written so vaguely that you think you agreed to one thing when the contract says another.
- ROE is not a universal acronym. If someone uses it, ask them to define it. Assume nothing.
- IP stands for intellectual property. This is your songs, recordings, artwork, and sometimes your name and image rights. Buying IP means you gave it away. Assigning IP means you signed paperwork that transfers ownership.
- Work for hire is legal language that, when valid, makes the hiring party the author. That can wipe out your rights in a song depending on the country and contract. For songwriters and producers, work for hire can be career suicide if not limited and paid for properly.
- Retainer is a deposit you pay a lawyer. It is not a bribe. It is money on account for future work. Ask how it is billed and how refunds work. If a recommended lawyer demands a huge retainer before any review, raise your eyebrow.
- Contingency fee means the lawyer gets paid only if you win and their payment is a percentage of the recovery. For record deals and simple contract reviews, contingency is uncommon. It may appear for litigation. If someone offers contingency for a contract review, read the fine print for what triggers the fee.
- Audit rights are your rights to inspect the label accounting. If a contract limits your audit rights or makes audits expensive, that is usually a problem. Good audit clauses are clear about frequency, scope, and who pays.
- Power of attorney means you give someone the right to act for you in a limited or broad way. Never give broad power of attorney to a lawyer recommended by a manager or label unless you know exactly what powers you are granting. You can ask for limited power that covers a single transaction and no more.
Red flags to watch for when a label or manager recommends a lawyer
If you see one of these, stop, breathe, and get independent counsel or at least pause the process until you can think clearly. Here are the loudest red flags.
- Single representation for both sides meaning the lawyer represents you and the label or manager in the same deal. That may create a conflict that prevents full advocacy for you.
- Referral commission or undisclosed payments meaning the lawyer or the recommending party receives money for each client sent. Many bar rules forbid a lawyer from splitting legal fees with non lawyers. If someone is profiting from the referral, ask for disclosure in writing.
- Pressure to sign quickly with lines like we need signatures now or the offer expires. That is negotiation theater. Real deals survive a few days of scrutiny.
- Requests to assign future works like giving the label or another party rights to songs you have not written yet without clear compensation. That is future income theft.
- Broad indemnity and warranty clauses that make you promise things about your songs that are unrealistic and that expose you to huge liability.
- Confusing accounting language that buries audit limits, long accounting cycles, or vague royalty rates in legalese.
- Automatic renewals without termination rights so the contract can roll forever unless you jump through hoops to escape.
- Work for hire language without fair compensation that treats your creative output like a freelance task instead of a long term asset.
How to vet a lawyer your manager or label suggests
You can be polite and cautious at the same time. Use this checklist. Copy the script lines and send them. Live your best suspicious but chill podcast host energy.
Step 1 Ask for the lawyer s name and firm immediately
Script you can copy and paste to your manager or label
Who is the lawyer and what firm are they with? Please send the engagement letter and a copy of any referral arrangement you have with them.
Why it matters. Names and firms are public. You can look them up. If they are evasive it is a sign.
Step 2 Check bar status and disciplinary history
How to do it. Search your state or country bar website. Ask for the lawyer s bar number. Disciplinary records are public. If they have problems, you want to know.
Step 3 Ask about conflicts and representation history
Script to send the lawyer directly
Do you have any existing or recent relationships with the label or manager on any matter that could affect your representation of me? If yes, please provide details and let me know whether you will provide a written consent to joint representation or whether you will represent only me.
Why it matters. You get clarity on whether the lawyer can be independent. If the lawyer insists on joint representation, get this in writing and then get independent counsel to review the consent form.
Step 4 Ask for references and sample contracts
Good lawyers have clients who will vouch for them and contracts they can show redacted. Ask for references from other artists who were in similar deals.
Step 5 Ask for a written fee agreement and a scope statement
What to ask for. A breakdown of hourly rates, retainer amount, billing increments, and how the retainer will be used and refunded. Ask for the scope meaning are they reviewing the agreement only or negotiating and litigating too.
Step 6 Ask to interview the lawyer for 20 minutes
You are hiring a person. Use the call to assess whether they ask questions about your career and whether they push solutions that favor the label. If they act like a mediator who cares equally about both sides, get that in writing if you will accept joint representation. If they talk only about speed and cheapness you should be cautious.
Questions to ask the lawyer on a first call
- How many record or publishing deals have you closed in the last two years?
- Do you represent any labels, managers, or publishers currently?
- Will you represent me exclusively on this matter or jointly with the label or manager?
- What will you charge to review the document and give a written memo of changes?
- Will you put any referral or bonus arrangement with the label or manager in writing for full disclosure?
- Do you carry professional liability insurance sometimes called malpractice insurance and what is the coverage?
- Can I get a limited scope engagement so you only review and redline the agreement and do not negotiate unless I approve?
What good independent counsel looks like
Independent counsel is someone who will ask more questions about your career than the fee they will charge. They will explain the long term implications of clauses not just the short term cash. They will draw your attention to publishing splits, reversion rights, accounting audits, sample rates, and scope of rights. They will give you a clear redline and an estimate to negotiate. Good counsel also explains trade offs. Sometimes a bad clause can be fixed with a higher royalty or a reversion timeline. You want someone who can craft bargaining chips not just list dangers.
Qualities to look for
- Experience in entertainment and music law documented by past deals.
- Clear fee structure and willingness to limit representation scope.
- Good communication where you understand the explanation without needing a law degree.
- No secret financial relationship with the recommending party.
- References from other artists or producers you can contact.
Common contract traps and how to fight back
Below are contract tricks that crop up. For each trick we give the red flag and the fix you should seek. Think of this like a cheat sheet for negotiating when the label s recommended lawyer is in the room.
Trap: Assigning all future songs for no clear pay
Red flag: Language that assigns or licenses future works and calls them part of the same deal. The contract might use words like all compositions created during the term without a parallel compensation table.
Fix: Ask for work to be defined clearly. If future songs are included limit the scope to songs written during a defined period and require that each song has a separate schedule showing splits and fees. Ask for reversion rights so rights return to you if the label does not exploit the songs within a set time.
Trap: Work for hire plain language
Red flag: The agreement says the recordings or compositions will be work for hire. That language may make you not the author for copyright purposes in some jurisdictions or may require special payment.
Fix: Ask to remove work for hire language and replace it with a license or a narrow assignment that lists the exact rights being transferred and the compensation for each. If the label insists on work for hire demand adequate compensation and a reversion schedule if the recordings are not exploited.
Trap: Broad audit limits
Red flag: Audit rights only once every several years, short inspection windows, or requirement that audits are at your expense even when you find underpayments.
Fix: Negotiate an audit clause that allows you to audit annually or once every 18 months, that sets a reasonable notice period, and that requires the label to pay audit costs if the audit reveals more than a small percentage of underpayment. Limit the look back period to a reasonable number of years which depends on local law but commonly three years.
Trap: Vagueness about publishing splits
Red flag: Contract says publishing will be split according to industry norms or will be discussed later. That is not a promise. Without clear terms you may lose major income streams.
Fix: Insist on a schedule that states the percentage splits for publishing and who controls the administration. If the label will administer your publishing ask for audit rights on administration and a cap on administration fees. Consider hiring an independent publishing administrator or a performing rights organization also known as a PRO to collect performance royalties like ASCAP, BMI, or SESAC in the United States. If you are outside the United States identify your local collection society and ensure you register works correctly.
Trap: Broad visual and branding assignments
Red flag: Contract gives the label perpetual rights to use your name, image, and likeness for anything related to the recordings.
Fix: Limit the rights to a defined term and for promotion of the recordings only. Keep control over merchandising and commercial endorsements unless you are getting serious money and a separate agreement. Give the label limited rights for promotional use and require approval for endorsements and merchandising deals that use your name or image beyond normal album art and advertising.
Trap: Automatic renewals and long terms with no reversion
Red flag: The contract automatically renews for additional periods and makes it extremely hard to leave. That can lock you to a label that does not push your career.
Fix: Insist on a fixed term with performance milestones. If the label can extend, require a written exercise of the option and tie it to performance metrics like release schedule or minimum sales. Include reversion rights that trigger if the label fails to release or exploit your recordings within a set time.
What to do if you already signed with recommended counsel and regret it
First we breathe. Then we act. Here are practical steps in order.
- Get a written copy of everything meaning any contract, redlines, emails, texts, engagement letter from the lawyer, and any side letters. Records are your friend.
- Hire independent counsel even if it is a limited scope review. A second opinion will show options and sometimes spot illegal clauses.
- Document pressure and misrepresentations meaning record or summarize any promises that were made orally and did not appear in writing. If someone told you we always give the artist a publishing co writers share and the form says otherwise put the discrepancy in writing and ask for an explanation.
- Negotiate amendments with the backing of independent counsel. Many bad clauses can be fixed with amendments. You do not always need to tear up the contract.
- Consider rescission only in clear fraud cases meaning the deal was procured by dishonest conduct. Rescission is a legal remedy where the contract is undone. This is complex and requires a lawyer who litigates entertainment cases.
- Protect your future works register songs with collection societies and publish your metadata accurately. That makes it harder for someone to steal future royalties even if contracts are messy.
Scripts and lines to use when you do not want the recommended lawyer
Say these and then pause until they reply. You are the artist and you set the tempo.
- Thanks. I appreciate the referral. I would like to use my own lawyer to review the agreement. Please send the contract to my counsel at this email address.
- I will agree to a joint meeting but I will be represented by my independent lawyer. Please confirm that the lawyer you recommended will provide a written disclosure of any conflicts.
- Before I sign anything I need three business days to get legal advice. If the offer expires in less time I will assume the timeline is negotiable and request extension.
How much should a music lawyer cost and how to pay less without selling your soul
Costs vary by market. Top entertainment lawyers at major firms can charge high hourly rates. Smaller specialized lawyers or solo practitioners often charge less and can be more practical for a rising artist. You can negotiate fees and ask for limited scope engagements where the lawyer only reviews and redlines a contract. You can also ask for flat fees for specific tasks like contract review, negotiation, or drafting a license. Get cost estimates in writing and ask for a budget cap for negotiations.
Popular fee arrangements
- Hourly billing where you pay for time. Ask about billing increments and request monthly invoices with time summaries.
- Flat fee for a defined scope like reviewing and redlining a contract or preparing a simple publishing split. Flat fees give price certainty.
- Contingency for litigation where the lawyer is paid a percentage of the recovery. This is common for big disputes but not for routine contract review.
- Unbundled or limited scope where you hire the lawyer only for specified tasks. This is ideal for artists who need help but not a full time retainer arrangement.
Audit rights explained with an example
Audits are how you verify the label is paying. A fair audit clause often includes the following simple points.
- You can audit every year or every 18 months.
- The label must provide books and records that explain the calculations showing your royalties.
- The look back period meaning how far back you can review is typically three years unless local law allows more.
- If the audit reveals underpayment greater than a small percentage for example five percent the label pays for the audit costs plus interest and the underpaid amount.
Example scenario
Imagine you find on your royalty statement that streaming revenue seems low. You exercise your audit right. The auditor finds missing mechanical royalty payments for sync uses in certain territories. The contract says audits are allowed every five years only and that the label can restrict scope. That is weak. With a better clause you would have audited sooner, forced accurate accounting, and recovered unpaid amounts with interest. Good audit rights are your late night insurance policy.
Why you need to know the difference between counsel and counsel
Lawyers wear many hats. Some do transactional work like contract drafting and negotiation. Some litigate. Some do both. The skills are different. A transactional lawyer who negotiates label deals may not be an effective litigator if something goes bad. If your deal might involve complex rights or large money consider a lawyer with litigation experience or ask the transactional lawyer to work with a litigation colleague for heavy liability and indemnity questions. The recommended lawyer may be great at creating contracts that favor the label. That is not the same as being great at defending or fighting for your rights in court. Know which skill you need.
Signing with eyes open is empowerment not paranoia
Managers and labels will recommend lawyers. Sometimes they will do it to help you. Sometimes they will do it because it benefits them. Your job is not to be ungrateful. Your job is to be smart. Use the scripts, ask the questions, and get a second opinion. There is nothing rude about protecting your rights and your career. If the recommended lawyer refuses to disclose conflicts, demands a gag agreement, or insists on joint representation without consent in writing, pause the process and find your own counsel. The amount you save by using friendly counsel is always small compared to the royalties you may forfeit by trusting speed or familiarity.
Checklist you can copy and paste before any signing
- Get the lawyer s name and firm and check bar status
- Request written disclosure of any referral fees or financial ties with the recommending party
- Get a written fee agreement and scope statement from the lawyer
- Ask for a minimum three business day review window before signing
- Confirm audit rights in writing with frequency and cost allocation
- Limit assignments of future works and remove broad work for hire language
- Limit rights to name and likeness to promotion of the recordings and short term
- Insist on reversion rights if works are not exploited within a defined period
- Retain the right to independent counsel at your cost if a conflict arises
FAQ
Can a label recommended lawyer represent me
Yes. A lawyer can represent you even if they are known to the label. The key is transparency. The lawyer must disclose any conflicts and obtain your informed consent in writing. If the lawyer is representing both parties they should explain how they will handle conflicts and whether they will provide separate advice. In many cases you are better served by independent counsel who only represents you.
Are referral fees legal
Rules vary by jurisdiction. In many places lawyers cannot split legal fees with non lawyers. Referral fees between lawyers are often permitted when disclosed. If your manager or label receives a payment for referring you to a lawyer ask for the arrangement in writing. If you suspect undisclosed referral payments that affect the lawyer s independence get independent advice and consider reporting the arrangement to the bar if it violates local rules.
What is a limited scope engagement and why is it useful
A limited scope engagement means the lawyer is hired for a specific task like reviewing and redlining a contract. It is useful because it is cheaper and faster than a full retainer. You get targeted help without ongoing billing surprises. Ask for a written engagement letter that defines the scope and the flat fee or an estimate of hours.
Can I refuse joint representation
Yes. You can refuse joint representation and hire your own counsel. If the label insists on having the same lawyer for both sides insist on a written disclosure and consider having an independent lawyer explain the consequences to you. Joint representation can be efficient but it is rarely in your best long term interest without strong written protections.
What should I do if I already signed and think I was misled
Get everything in writing, hire independent counsel for a review, collect evidence of misrepresentation, and explore amendments or rescission if fraud can be shown. Often renegotiation with leverage and a second lawyer is enough. Litigation is expensive. Aim for a fix first and escalate only if necessary.
How do I check a lawyer s reputation
Search bar records, read client reviews, ask industry peers for references, and ask the lawyer for redacted examples of deals. Disciplinary history is public. Professional liability insurance is a sign of seriousness. A lawyer who refuses to provide references or a clear fee structure is a red flag.