Songwriting Advice
Recouping Tour Support With Interest - Traps & Scams Every Musician Must Avoid
Tour support sounds like free money until it is not. You get a check or some cold hard cash wired to your account. You celebrate. Then the tour settles and the label or promoter starts sending invoices and recoup notices and suddenly your bank account looks like it survived a tax audit after a bar fight. This guide breaks the confusion into actionable steps so you can spot predatory clauses, protect your cash flow, and refuse to be the schmuck who pays interest for the privilege of getting paid.
Quick Links to Useful Sections
- What Is Tour Support
- Key Terms Explained
- How Interest Works on Recouped Tour Support
- Simple versus compound interest
- Traps That Artists Fall Into
- Trap 1 Accepting interest on top of invisible fees
- Trap 2 Recoupment from gross receipts only clause
- Trap 3 Cross collateralization without limits
- Trap 4 Interest that starts the day the contract is signed
- Trap 5 Allowing the company to pay vendors directly without receipts
- Trap 6 Limited audit rights or a short audit window
- Trap 7 Charging interest on other unpaid debts
- Scams That Look Legit
- Scam 1 Merchant cash advance dressed as tour support
- Scam 2 Hidden conversion to a loan with unreasonable APR
- Scam 3 False accounting and vague expense categories
- Negotiation Tactics That Protect You
- Checklist to Use Before You Sign Anything
- How to Audit a Recoupment Statement
- Arithmetic check
- Substance check
- When to Get Legal Help
- Practical Steps If You Are Already in Debt
- Step 1 Get the account statement
- Step 2 Audit or hire an accountant
- Step 3 Negotiate a repayment plan
- Step 4 Offer alternative collateral
- Step 5 Keep records moving forward
- Real World Examples To Learn From
- Case study one The promoter invoice mushroom
- Case study two Merchant cash advance mask
- Case study three Sunset saved the day
- What To Ask At The Negotiation Table
- What Good Deals Look Like
- Quick Scripts You Can Use
- Protective Document Templates You Should Use
- Final Practical Tips to Remember
This article is for the artist who has asked for tour support and now wants to make sure the math and the legal terms do not end their career. We will explain common industry terms, show how interest works in recoupment, expose tricks that promoters and labels use to squeeze extra money, and give a practical checklist you can use the next time someone offers you an advance for a tour.
What Is Tour Support
Tour support is money provided by a label, distributor, or promoter to help cover touring costs. This can be cash, flights, hotels, crew payments, gear rentals, or the promise to pay specific vendors. The idea is simple. The presenter wants the act on the road and will cover some upfront costs to make it happen. The artist expects to pay that money back from touring revenue or future income streams.
Real life scenario
- You book a club tour and a promoter wires you five thousand dollars for travel and hotel. You think of tacos and a new pair of shoes. Later the promoter sends a statement saying you owe six thousand after expenses and interest. That is tour support gone wrong.
Key Terms Explained
If music industry English sounds like lawyer food court speak that is because it is. Learn these terms so you can read your own contract and explain it to your mom without sounding like a robot.
- Recoupment The process by which an entity that gave you money gets that money back from your revenue. Example. Label pays for tour support. Label deducts that money from your royalties or from your live pay.
- Advance Money given upfront against future earnings. It is not free money. It is a loan that is repaid by your future income until the loan is paid in full.
- Interest Extra money charged on top of the principal. In music deals this can be simple interest or compound interest. Simple interest is calculated only on the initial amount. Compound interest accrues on the principal and on previous interest amounts. Compound interest grows like weeds at a dumpster fire.
- Gross receipts Money before any costs are removed. If a contract recoups from gross receipts you could end up paying a lot even if your show costs were high.
- Net receipts Money after some costs are deducted. Contracts vary wildly on what they allow you to deduct before recoupment.
- Cross collateralization When the same advance is tied to multiple revenue streams. Example. Your album royalties and your merchandise sales both get tapped to repay one loan. That can prevent a clean break if one income stream is slow.
- Audit rights Your right to examine the accounting that shows how much you owe and how interest was computed. If a deal removes or limits your audit rights you are probably getting scammed.
- Sunset clause A provision that limits how long a label or investor can recoup from certain income streams. This can be a lifesaver. It forces a timeline on recoupment and prevents forever fees.
How Interest Works on Recouped Tour Support
Interest makes a loan cost more. Many touring advances charge interest from the date of funding until the loan is repaid. Some interest rates are reasonable like five percent a year. Others are wild like twenty five percent a year. Ask yourself this as you read a contract. Would I agree to this interest rate if someone handed me a credit card offer at the merch table? If the answer is no then negotiate harder.
Simple versus compound interest
Simple interest is easy to understand. If you borrow one thousand dollars at ten percent simple interest for one year you owe one hundred dollars in interest and one thousand dollars in principal. Compound interest is the sneaky one. With quarterly compounding you might owe interest on your interest. That means the amount you owe balloons faster than you can say rent due.
Example
- Simple interest Thirty days pass. You borrowed two thousand dollars at twelve percent simple interest yearly. After one year you owe two thousand four hundred dollars. The math is direct.
- Compound interest Same two thousand dollars with twelve percent compounded monthly. After one year you owe more because each month the interest becomes part of the base for the next month. The difference looks small at first and then eats your revenue like a greedy cellmate.
Traps That Artists Fall Into
Here are the common scams and contract tricks that will make you cry into a half empty water bottle.
Trap 1 Accepting interest on top of invisible fees
Promoters sometimes add hidden fees like processing, administration, or accounting. Then they charge interest on the sum of the principal and those fake fees. That is interest on top of fees on top of the loan. It is like paying for a pizza and then paying interest on the delivery guy for being charming.
Real life scenario
- You receive three thousand dollars for tour support. The promoter lists a four hundred dollar administration fee. Your balance becomes three thousand four hundred. Interest accrues on three thousand four hundred. You thought you had three thousand. You did not. The administration fee is a reminder that you should always ask for a line by line accounting and define allowable expenses in the contract.
Trap 2 Recoupment from gross receipts only clause
A clause that allows recoupment from gross receipts means the entity takes money before you pay anyone else. If your tour requires paying crew, trucks, and hotels then recouping from gross receipts can leave you with nothing to operate on. Always push to recoup from net receipts after specific approved expenses.
Trap 3 Cross collateralization without limits
If a company ties your entire future earnings to one loan you may never escape. Suppose you take tour support from a label that then says they can recoup from your recorded music royalties for the next ten years. That can make you dependent on one source for a very long time. Ask for narrow collateral and a sunset clause.
Trap 4 Interest that starts the day the contract is signed
Some contracts start charging interest from the signing date rather than the funding date. That can be months before you actually get the money or before services are rendered. Demand interest start on the funding date or the first documented expenditure date.
Trap 5 Allowing the company to pay vendors directly without receipts
Direct vendor payments can be efficient. They can also hide rip offs. If the company pays a vendor and then invoices you for the payment you have the right to ask for the vendor invoice. Without it you have no way to confirm the price or that the service occurred.
Trap 6 Limited audit rights or a short audit window
If you only have thirty days to audit accounting statements you will likely miss errors. Companies know this. Ask for a longer window and for the right to independent third party audits if you suspect wrongdoing.
Trap 7 Charging interest on other unpaid debts
The company might combine multiple debts into one statement and charge interest on the combined balance. That can make small old debts explode when combined with new ones. Insist on separate accounting for each advance and interest calculation for each principal.
Scams That Look Legit
Some scams wear suits. They look professional and smell like paperwork. Here is what to watch for when someone tries to look very official.
Scam 1 Merchant cash advance dressed as tour support
A merchant cash advance provides funding in exchange for a percentage of future receipts. They are fast but expensive. Some companies will call this tour support. It is not the same as a label advance. The cost and repayment structure can be brutal. If the offer includes a daily or weekly fixed percentage of revenue you could pay back more in two months than the amount you received in six months of shows.
Real life scenario
- You accept a cash advance that takes ten percent of each show gross for the next year. On a good weekend you give away half of the gross because you are split with the band and paying crew and production. That is how these deals quietly kill touring viability.
Scam 2 Hidden conversion to a loan with unreasonable APR
A contract may say the support is repayable from royalties but then include a clause that converts the unpaid balance into a loan at a very high annual percentage rate if you do not reach a sales threshold. That threshold can be impossible to reach. If you sign this you risk sudden high interest you did not expect.
Scam 3 False accounting and vague expense categories
Vague terms like administrative costs or overhead allow discretionary billing. Those categories are a playground for creative accounting. Define precise expense categories that are allowed and require receipts and vendor invoices.
Negotiation Tactics That Protect You
You do not need to be a criminal lawyer to negotiate fairly. You need to ask the right questions and demand certain protections. Here is a list you can use at the negotiation table or on the phone with someone who sounds too smooth.
- Ask for a full breakdown Demand a written budget that lists all expenses that will be paid by the advance. Require vendor invoices for any funds repaid on your behalf.
- Limit interest Ask for interest that is simple and tied only to the principal. Cap the rate at a reasonable market level or negotiate no interest in return for a small equity like a one time merchandising fee paid to the company.
- Make interest start on funding date Do not let interest accrue before you receive money or before services begin.
- Define gross versus net Spell out what deductions are allowed before recoupment. Typical allowed items are venue fees, promoter shares, and approved crew wages. Disallow vague terms.
- Limit cross collateralization Keep the collateral to the immediate tour revenue. If other revenue streams are included require a sunset clause or separate agreement that requires explicit consent.
- Insist on audit rights Keep the right to audit with a reasonable time window like one year and the right to a neutral third party if disputes arise.
- Set repayment caps Talk about a maximum repayable amount. For example agree that repayment including interest cannot exceed one hundred twenty five percent of the principal. That prevents runaway obligations.
- Include a sunset clause Force a timeline after which the company cannot recoup from certain income streams.
Checklist to Use Before You Sign Anything
Here is a short checklist you can print and slide across the table to the smiling person who wants your signature.
- Who is funding the tour support and what entity will hold the debt record
- Exact principal amount being funded and the funding date
- Interest rate and whether it is simple or compound
- When interest begins and how often it is calculated
- Which revenue streams are subject to recoupment
- What expenses are deductible before recoupment with a requirement for vendor invoices
- Whether the advance converts to a loan and under what circumstances
- Audit rights and the time window for audits
- Cross collateralization specifics and any sunset clause
- Repayment cap and dispute resolution process
How to Audit a Recoupment Statement
Auditing is how you check that the math is fair. You do the audit on two levels. First look at arithmetic. Second look at substance. Both matter.
Arithmetic check
- Confirm the principal amount matches the contract and the funding date
- Check that interest was calculated at the agreed rate for the correct time period
- Look for double entries or duplicated fees
Substance check
- Request vendor invoices for every expense deducted
- Verify that each vendor actually performed the service
- Look for vague descriptions like event cost or administration which need to be explained and matched with invoices
Real life scenario
- The promoter deducted a two hundred fifty dollar item labeled production fee for a night in Austin. You asked for the vendor invoice and discovered the fee was a markup on a van rental that the promoter paid to a related company. That is a potential conflict of interest and needs removing or renegotiating.
When to Get Legal Help
Not every contract requires a full on lawyer. Still if the amount is material or if the contract includes compound interest or cross collateralization you should consult an experienced entertainment lawyer. If your legal budget is zero consider these options.
- Ask for a plain English summary of the contract
- Use a lawyer for a single hour to review key clauses rather than for full negotiation
- Seek free or low cost legal clinics that serve artists and musicians
Remember legal advice is worth the cost when it prevents a long term debt problem. Imagine paying interest for the next five years on a small advance you thought was a gift. That pain is avoidable.
Practical Steps If You Are Already in Debt
If you already owe money here is how to limit damage and regain control.
Step 1 Get the account statement
Demand a full detailed statement. Do not accept a one line balance. Insist on a ledger that shows dates, vendor invoices, and interest calculations.
Step 2 Audit or hire an accountant
Have someone check the math and the invoices. Old invoices vanish. They also get cooked.
Step 3 Negotiate a repayment plan
Offer to pay a fixed monthly amount that is realistic. Exchange that for a reduction in interest or a cap on total repayable amount. Companies prefer consistent payments to chasing small sums for years.
Step 4 Offer alternative collateral
Suggest a narrower collateral arrangement or offer a short term assignment of a small revenue stream like a portion of merchandise sales. This can protect your main income like recorded music royalties.
Step 5 Keep records moving forward
Track every receipt, every vendor invoice, and every payment. Use a simple accounting tool and store PDFs. If you are audited later you will be glad you kept the paper trail.
Real World Examples To Learn From
These stories are anonymized but accurate to the behaviors you will see in the industry.
Case study one The promoter invoice mushroom
An indie band accepted a two thousand dollar advance for a ten city club run. After the tour the promoter issued a statement that added three hundred in administrative fees per show and calculated interest back to the date of signature. The band had not required invoices and did not push back. The final settlement left the band owing more than five thousand dollars which reduced their paycheck to almost nothing. Lesson. Define allowable fees and ask for invoices before you accept a net payment or an accounting process that is opaque.
Case study two Merchant cash advance mask
A solo artist took a fast merchant cash advance to cover a sudden van repair and a canceled show. The advance took twelve percent of gross show receipts for six months. When the shows slowed the artist paid a higher percentage of limited revenue and lost momentum. They could not pay crew and had to cancel remaining dates. Lesson. Merchant cash advances can be fast and expensive. Use them only as a last resort and negotiate a cap on total repayable amount.
Case study three Sunset saved the day
A rising band negotiated tour funding from an indie label with a strict sunset clause that limited recoupment from recorded music royalties to five years. The tour was successful and the band repaid the support within two years. Because of the sunset clause the label could not recoup from future digital licensing income beyond five years. That allowed the band to capitalize on later opportunities. Lesson. A sunset clause gives you future breathing room.
What To Ask At The Negotiation Table
When someone offers you money ask these exact questions out loud. Use them as an interrogation script and make the person answer in plain language.
- How much is the principal amount and when will it be funded
- What is the exact interest rate and how is it calculated
- When does interest begin to accrue
- What expenses are deducted before recoupment and do you have vendor invoices for those now
- From which revenue streams will you recoup and for how long
- Is there cross collateralization and if so what is the sunset period
- What are my audit rights and what is the audit window
- Is there any conversion to a loan and under what trigger conditions
- What is the dispute resolution process and where will any litigation occur
What Good Deals Look Like
Not all deals are sharks. Some are fair and helpful and will move your career forward. Look for these signs.
- Clear budgets with vendor invoices and approved cost items
- Interest that is transparent and capped at a reasonable percentage
- Recoupment from net receipts after agreed deductions
- Limited cross collateralization and a sunset clause
- Strong audit rights for the artist and a reasonable window to perform audits
- A repayment cap that prevents runaway obligations
Quick Scripts You Can Use
Use these one line replies to avoid sounding like a deer in headlights.
- That sounds useful. I will have my accountant review the budget and vendor invoices before I sign
- I am fine with an advance but I need the interest to be simple and to start on the funding date
- I will accept funding if the recoupment is from net receipts after approved costs and with a sunset clause
- Can you provide sample vendor invoices for similar tours so we can confirm reasonable cost levels
- I need audit rights for at least one year and the right to a third party review if disputes arise
Protective Document Templates You Should Use
Ask your lawyer for templates. If you cannot afford a lawyer use the following items as a minimum to request from the funder.
- Detailed funding agreement with line item budget
- Vendor invoice requirement clause
- Simple interest calculation clause with the exact rate and calculation frequency
- Separate ledger for each advance with separate interest computation
- Sunset clause for other revenue streams and a repayment cap clause
- Audit rights clause with independent accountant provision
Final Practical Tips to Remember
Before you step back on stage remember these simple rules that will keep your bank account and your dignity intact.
- Never sign at the merch table under pressure
- Get the funding in writing and split the contract review into small, verifiable pieces
- Keep records of every invoice and payment and store them in the cloud
- Ask for a repayment schedule and negotiate a cap on total repayable amount
- Use legal help for material amounts or for contracts with compound interest or wide collateral clauses